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An "entry level" job that "doesn't require a college degree" doesn't need to pay more than 50% of all other jobs. But a job that demands you give up 60 hours of your life every week needs to pay much better than 50% of all jobs.

If you want to work 60 hours a week at your FAANG or startup job, that's your choice (though that choice does have an impact in terms of the expectations within the industry) - but you're probably being paid 2x-5x so you're well rewarded for your time.



Any evidence that overtime at 60 hours a week, every single week forever is mandatory for all Tesla factory workers?

That seems unusual compared to how most hourly jobs are run. Lots of people are happy to take overtime when it's available. Never seen anything that says 60hrs per week is mandatory all the time.


Evidence: https://twitter.com/wholemarsblog/status/1531807546729799687 -> 40 hours a week is less than we ask of factory workers

So straight from the horses mouth the expectation is somewhere over 40. No mention of that being a “sometimes” situation.

https://www.glassdoor.com/FAQ/Tesla-Question-FAQ200052-E4312...

“Insane work hours for everyone, no overtime pay”

“Starting hourly pay is essentially poverty wage in the Bay Area and you only get overtime pay after 10 hours, not 8 hours like you would think.”

“Occasionally is fine, but 12 - 14 hours a day five days a week is not safe especially considering we work with electricity”

Too many quotes to that effect to list them all. Universally they say: overtime starts at 10 hours not eight, there is a lot of it (i didn’t see any comment citing overtime under 60 hours), and it’s mandatory.


> So straight from the horses mouth the expectation is somewhere over 40.

There are 19 other numbers between 40 and 60. How do you reach the conclusion that since it's more than 40, it must necessarily be exactly 60 all the time for every employee?

> “Insane work hours for everyone, no overtime pay”

> you only get overtime pay after 10 hours, not 8 hours like you would think.

It sounds like these are salaried positions and they are not entitled to any overtime pay. If they were talking about hourly positions they would be getting time-and-half from 41 hours on, because that's the law. The fact that they're getting any overtime pay at all in a salaried position is more than most companies do and is beyond what is required by law.

From the Department of Labor website:

> Nonexempt workers must be paid overtime pay at a rate of not less than one and one-half times their regular rates of pay after 40 hours of work in a workweek.

https://www.dol.gov/agencies/whd/compliance-assistance/handy...

So, there's no way the overtime after 10+ applies to non-exempt employees.




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