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It's about fricken time! Talk about procrastination!

Now I have to wait for browsers to get off their little snowflake asses and update. Oh wait then there is all those paranoids who use WinXP with IE8. Damn it, I'll be dead by the time this stuff is available universally.



At some point, you just need to stop caring about those people. I know some of you can't professionally, but personally, there's no need to even pretend to support IE <= 11. If they want to run an old os and old browser, they don't get to use my service. No sweat off my balls.


Finding actual numbers seems to be harder than it should be, but this page:

https://www.netmarketshare.com/browser-market-share.aspx?qpr...

...suggests that IE 8, 9 and 10 combined have about ~28% market share. Of course, I don't know what they're measuring --- somewhere like github is going to see a very different balance of browsers than, say, Amazon --- but that's a hell of a lot, roughly equal to the IE 11 market share. I'd say that's way too much to dismiss out of hand.

Edit: I've since found this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_web_browsers#Su...

That suggestions that netmarketshare are consistently measuring IE high --- other people show IE at about half that, and Chrome at about double what netmarketshare do. Which, of course, makes it even more important to find out who your audience are before giving up support for old browsers.


> That suggestions that netmarketshare are consistently measuring IE high

That's because those tables arae

StatCounter (and the W3Counter/Wikimedia things in the tables you cite) are measuring website visits.

NetApplications/netmarketshare is measuring unique users.

So what that data shows is likely several things going on at once:

1) Chrome (and Firefox, for that matter, if you look at te the tables)) users load more webpages than IE users.

2) Chrome does some webpage prerendering stuff that can get counted as "visits" if you're not very careful; not sure how well StatCounter accounts for this.

3) Likely some differences in the actual base data, though I expect this is really minor compared to item #1.

Of course I couldn't agree more with your general claim that web-wide statistics are a poor replacement for specific statistics for a particular site. But even there the question of "visits" vs "unique users" might be an important one.


Self-replying, since I have no idea what happened to the comment text I _meant_ to write and I can't edit it now. What I meant to say at the beginning of my comment was:

That's because those tables are comparing apples and oranges. StatCounter (and the W3Counter/Wikimedia things in the tables you cite) are measuring website visits. NetApplications/netmarketshare is measuring unique users.


That changes a lot if your target market is big enterprise customers. Oh you don't support IE9? Well say goodbye to that market share.


You just need to find a tent-pole feature and a reason to use it.

For example: "This browser requires WebGL" -> IE11 and up.


One of the reasons why I'll go with Dart or TypeScript or whatever anyway. ;)


Or just use a transpiler.




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