I'll take the bait.

Can't you just enroll your kid's devices in your home corporate and leverage MDM to force the network to call through your proxy, which denies or downgrades all ECH and then can actively filter to an allowlist or screen the material through your personal or contracted LLM?

This seems relatively solved to me.

The average Joe wouldn't know where to begin in setting that up. That solution is far from solving the problem.

Is this sarcasm?

I was recommended by my psychiatrist to go get tested for autism recently. I suppose I should take that more seriously than I first did...

To a first approximation, everyone who visits HN is autistic.

> That's why governments want to do something about it in the first place.

Really ? Like what ? I never heard about mandated "working parental controls". I only heard about "protect the children" (where are the lawsuits against (church) rapists ?) and "protect about terrorism" ( where they twist the definition of "terrorism" to suit their political interests).

You know what Microsoft did with "parental controls" ?. It disabled Firefox. Of course you can still access ( "educational") porn sites through Edge.

What doesn’t work for the ones that you’re aware of?

The simplest parental control is just not giving your kid unrestricted internet access. It’s both cheaper and easier than the status quo.

I’m sorry, but if you don’t have a home computer in your living room for your kids homework, you haven’t put in any effort and I no longer care. Ideally nobody, anywhere, should care. You have to take actual steps. Very basic, easy steps.

Think about what you need technology for. To reach your kid, to do their homework. Okay. Now do you require 24/7 internet access on an arbitrary device for that? No. You can go to Walmart today and pick up a 20 dollar burner phone. But you didn’t, right? So do that first, analyze the landscape, and then I think there can be a conversation to be had.

Demanding a conversation or worse, a law, when the most basic steps have not been taken is frankly disrespectful. That’s how I view it, it’s a time wasting mechanism.

How do you give someone restricted internet access? What steps do you take for that to happen?

You physically restrict the device, as you would a knife or any other item you deem dangerous. I wouldn’t give, say, a ten year old 24/7 access to a butcher knife. No, it’s in the kitchen.

Does that 100% prevent bad things? No, but it’s obvious, cheap, and good enough that everybody stopped trying after that.

If you have a computer in the living room, I can guarantee that the odds that your son or daughter is watching something bad will be very low.

The great thing about these solutions is they require no complex machinery, either literally or politically. But if you look around, people just jump the gun past these solutions. Meaning, they’re not trying.

Which, IMO, if you don’t care about your kids, obviously then I don’t either. Which is fine because as a parent that’s your right, and I support that right.