not sure i'd lump Iran in with Venezuela here. also far too early for either to ...

		yacin 48 days ago \| parent \| context \| favorite \| on: I'm Getting a Whiff of Iain Banks' Culture not sure i'd lump Iran in with Venezuela here. also far too early for either to say if either will lead to a "win" whatever that means.

They both feel like a no-troops proof-of-concept.