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== The Democratic White House chose to not invite Tesla to their EV Summit. That was not political?==

I never said they weren’t political, but if you want to compare disappearing Americans to not inviting someone to a summit go-ahead. It kind of proves my point.

Have you entertained the idea that those people may have committed crimes? Can you explain the fake electors plot to me? Why did they send fraudulent electoral certificates from 7 different states?

Some of the people you mention were already known criminals (D’Souza, Cohen, Manafort, etc.). You can defend them, but that is your choice.



I can't reply to the previous post now, but the 'bailout' to Central States Pension Fund. $36b to deal with a pension fund serving 350k people. Yes, seems high. Yes, was an 'unusual' move, done during 2021 - height of covid. Why did CSPF need assistance? It never quite recovered from 2008 financial crisis - banks and other companies got 'bailouts' but not CSPF. Massive economic turmoil during 2020/2021 because of covid impacted the fund further.

Might have been other or better ways of trying to address this (and many other covid issues). But we got what we got.


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1) Trying someone for a crime in front of a jury is not a "presumption of guilt." It's quite literally the opposite?

If the DA is playing judge and jury... then why was there a judge and a jury? I cannot parse what you're saying.

2) Now here you're actually presuming guilt. What evidence do you have that "everyone in Washington DC is a felon?"

3) There literally were massive legal challenges. And no, the 5th Amendment is not an absurd legal standard on its face. Yes, it is in fact designed to make some types of government behavior very difficult if not impossible. That's what the Constitution does.

4) Correct, due process is merely showing in a court (potentially an administrative court) they do not have legal residence. That has not happened 100% of the time. SCOTUS agreed 9 to 0 this has not happened 100% of the time, as is required and guaranteed by the US Constitution.

6) Not sure what you're referring to

7) I mean... you're welcome to your opinion. My opinion (and the opinion of many Americans) is that we should try to welcome people who have fallen on hard times and that those people should have representation in our government given that they pay taxes. You know, just basic tenets of American society. That's why "Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, the wretched refuse of your teeming shore" is engraved on the Statue of Liberty and why "No taxation without representation" is a slogan upon which our country was literally founded.

On the other hand, it harshes your vibes.


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