That's fine, you have the right to vote third-party, but are you saying aren't sympathetic to the other issues that Trump is raising?
I am not sure I loved Kamala's stance on Palestine, but I thought that Trump's tariff policies were stupid, his anti-immigrant and anti-trans rhetoric was harmful, and virtually every single stupid thing that the Diablo cheater has done with DOGE (and said he would do before the election, to be clear) seemed short-sighted-at-best and malicious-at-worst. It can be difficult to tell since both Trump and Musk are supremely stupid people who depend on hubris to fail upwards their entire lives, but regardless it seemed pretty bad to me, and it seemed like the totality of it indicated that Kamala would have been fine.
Obviously there's nothing wrong with voting on a single issue, if you think Palestine is more important than all the stuff I listed then that's fair enough and I'm actually fine with people voting third party. The way I see it though, the only person who is going to do exactly what I want, politically speaking, is me, and I'm not running. No matter who I vote for, as a result, is going to inherently be a compromise on something. I have to vote for the person that I think will do the least amount of damage and/or try and prevent the person who is going to do the most from getting in power.
I felt like a vote for a candidate that had a shot at winning was better than one that didn't, even though I tend to actually be a bit closer-aligned with the green party.
> if both sides are genocidal, there's no choice where your life gets better
As I said, stupid and selfish. Not seeing the difference between bombing and explicit ethnic cleansing and relocation for the people in Gaza is modern Sykes-Picot.
Note that I’m fine with that person not voting. (Almost prefer it.) It’s wild, though, to pretend it furthered the interests of the people they pretend to hold dear, versus some personal moral purity they’d prefer to preach about online.
> i did vote socialist/green
This is fine, even admirable, if you’re not in a swing state. If you’re in a swing state, you de facto voted for Trump and the destruction of both Gaza and the dream of a Palestinian nation-state.
> if liberals want to win elections, they need to start offering a vision of a better future
Sure. And never mention Israel or Palestine again, because I no longer have any desire to engage with the US elements of those movements who are, on both sides, adamant about redrawing foreign borders in respect of countries and cultures they have no direct relation to nor experience with.
do you have any concept of what they were doing in Gaza? 85% of schools bombed/damaged, almost every hospital destroyed, tens of millions of tons of rubble, Trump said 1.7-1.8M remaining (meaning 400-500k dead). this is a holocaust. Democrats are not doing an "innocent war". They are hiterites with a smile on their face. The Republicans are hitlerites with a frown. Sometimes vice versa depending on the situation.
I voted in PA. You guys want my vote? appeal to me and people like me.
> 85% of schools bombed/damaged, almost every hospital destroyed, tens of millions of tons of rubble, Trump said 1.7-1.8M remaining
How do you think those 2mm remaining would prefer the future to go? Razed, relocated and—let’s be honest—in all likelihood ersatz enslaved somewhere in Central Asia or Africa? Safe in the knowledge someone in America made this choice for them with a false equivalence between living on their land to fight another day and being dissolved as a nation?
That is the selfishness. That is the holier-than-thou imperial mindset; what matters is how one is portrayed and gets to think about oneself, not how the people one uses as puppets fare. (Sykes and Picot’s supporters thought they were helping, too!)
