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Studies show you've got it backwards. If you let a nurse or programmer into the country, they're going to take a job that's otherwise filled by an American, depressing skilled wages.

If you let in an unskilled laborer, they're going to take a job that nobody wants. They spend those wages, boosting the economy.

In both cases, studies show that the number of jobs stays roughly the same; immigrants create about the same amount of jobs as they take. However skilled immigrants decrease average wages, and unskilled immigrants increase average wages.

It's the outliers that really tip the balance, though. If one of those immigrants turns out to be Jensen Huang or his parents, that's how you make America great.



> Studies show you've got it backwards. If you let a nurse or programmer into the country, they're going to take a job that's otherwise filled by an American, depressing skilled wages.

But at that same time they're contributing massive amounts to the tax base, furthering society.

Maybe they even start a company, employing more programmers.

They also spend their wages.

> If you let in an unskilled laborer, they're going to take a job that nobody wants.

The price for that work is artificially low because these folks don't have any legal protections of any kind.

Guess what else happens commonly to unskilled, under-the-table labor? Injuries! Which I have to pay an outsized amount for in the form of Medicaid and ER fees.

How much of their remaining income is remitted straight to their impoverished relatives back home?

> If one of those immigrants turns out to be Jensen Huang or his parents

Know how to easily filter out Jensen Huang from the crowd of people swimming across the Rio Grande? Marketable skills.


> How much of their remaining income is remitted straight to their impoverished relatives back home?

The skilled labourers do far more of that than unskilled ones.

> Guess what else happens commonly to unskilled, under-the-table labor? Injuries! Which I have to pay an outsized amount for in the form of Medicaid and ER fees.

The vast majority of the cost of health care is old people, and it's expensive because it's labor intensive. The way to bring health care costs down is to increase the ratio of young people to old people. Which in 2024 means immigration.

> Know how to easily filter out Jensen Huang from the crowd of people swimming across the Rio Grande? Marketable skills.

Marketable skills like shopkeeper? That's what Jensen Huang's parents were.


> The vast majority of the cost of health care is old people

Chronic costs, yes, costs borne out of tail risks - no.

> Marketable skills like shopkeeper? That's what Jensen Huang's parents were.

If you have the drive, economic ability, wherewithal in 2024 to keep a shop - operate a business - in the United States in 2024, yes, this is a desirable, marketable skill.


> Chronic costs, yes, costs borne out of tail risks - no.

Chronic costs are the vast majority of total costs

> If you have the drive, economic ability, wherewithal in 2024 to keep a shop - operate a business - in the United States in 2024, yes, this is a desirable, marketable skill.

That's a priori data. Jensen's parents weren't shopkeepers in Taiwan, so how would you know this?


Lord help your soul though if you are a citizen and do not have the ability to work a high level job.

There are an enormous number of unskilled workers in the US. And they get a vote. And they will vote to kill off competition from migrant workers. Like what trump is promising.


What’s not mentioned is that skilled immigration, if it pushes aside a skilled citizen - that skilled citizen can no doubt find some other work.

But the unskilled citizen labor that gets pushed aside by unskilled immigration - they have a much harder time finding work.


> that skilled citizen can no doubt find some other work.

at a much lower salary, sure.

> But the unskilled citizen labor that gets pushed aside by unskilled immigration - they have a much harder time finding work.

No they don't, not according to studies. Studies show that immigration increases the number of total jobs available. There are fewer available jobs for janitors, but more available jobs where just being a local is a marketable skill. A local has language and cultural skills that immigrants don't have.

So they're less likely to find work as a janitor but more likely to find one as a waiter or retail manager, both higher paying positions.




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