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Lol, they realize it's a sell-or-ban bill, right? Kind of a moot point when you realize that TikTok as we know it will continue, just without a connection to the CCP. Even if they do ban TikTok the company, the engineers/ML scientists who developed the recommender system powering TikTok still exist, so worst comes to worst someone makes a new company, hires the engineers, and off to the races


What a wild take. You know they spent multiple billions of dollars on advertising to get their userbase? Which without, algorithms don't work. The best algo in the world means nothing if there are only a million people using the thing.


Beijing has a veto on the sale, and are likely to exercise it. From their point of view, allowing the US to force a Chinese company to sell itself off as soon as it achieves success would set a very bad precedent, and encourage a torrent of other blackmail efforts.

They'll be willing to let Bytedance take the L on this. Bytedance can console themselves that TikTok can still operate elsewhere on the world, just making less money.


I don’t think profitability really matters for TikTok. They will continue to operate as long as they are useful.


So the CCP can dish it out but can’t take it.

Until the CCP decides to allow a level playing field for US companies operating in China they can go pound sand as far as I’m concerned.


Not sure how this is "dishing it out and not taking it". They intend to "take it"; they will force Bytedance not to sell, and thereby lose its US business with no compensation.


Whether they want to sell or not is moot. As far as I’m concerned we should offer the following options to any business with ties to the CCP:

Divest completely, sell it to a US based company, or exit the company from US markets.

They are not our ally.


It has already been cloned! It is called "Redz" [0]. If imitation is the purest form of flattery, Redz is pure flattery. Look at the UI images.

[0] https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.homyt.thex


Interesting name. Might as well have called it COMRADES or MUNISM


China has already indicated it won't sell its 20% share, and so TikTok will be removed from the US app stores.

And any replacement would be US only, limiting its reach to some 10% of what it had before.

This is why most people view this as a ban. And IMO, rightfully so; it's not as if our congressmen and congresswomen are fumbling about in the dark. They've just bought.


> any replacement would be US only

The rest of the world will likely follow. Also most of the world has already accepted that US tech firms have all their data, but don’t want China to have it. If there’s a feasible alternative to TikTok then banning it in Indonesia or Poland or Brazil becomes much easier for the politicians.


Of course! That’s why Instagram/Meta/Reddit/Twitter/etc’s clones of TikTok’s UI/UX and reels has already killed TikTok usage. /s




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