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no other class of materials is anywhere close to perfluorocarbons in many properties, such as low affinity for both water and hydrocarbons (and consequently fats), and ultraviolet resistance coupled with softness

additionally such levels of resistance to biodegradation are rarely found in combination with either of the previous two qualities

no other known organic compounds, out of the currently 182 million assigned cas numbers, are as thermally stable

we are not talking about the kind of research and development that a company can carry out over a commercially viable timescale; we're talking about fundamental breakthroughs in material engineering

perfluorocarbons were discovered almost a century ago, and nothing equaling or exceeding their properties in these ways has been discovered since

moreover, there are fundamental reasons to suspect that nothing ever will be; fluorine is the most electronegative element that exists or ever will exist, if we restrict ourselves to ordinary atomic matter, and there aren't any plausible room-temperature substitutes for carbon chains in this role either

so it wouldn't be surprising if the company tries to palm off inferior polyethylene substitutes as 'gore-tex' in preference to just declaring defeat, but it's not plausible that they're going to discover an equivalent or better non-perfluorocarbon alternative within the next decade or two

this is science, not magic

some things are just impossible



There's always active materials. We already have heated jackets, why not dehumidified jackets?

Then again, I don't do activities where failure of my clothes could kill me, so I'm not sure how the market would respond.


i have been working on that for a while but my intended use is enabling autonomic thermoregulation in humid weather by condensing sweat

i hadn't thought of it as a useful adjunct to wrapping myself in essentially a garbage bag to stay dry in the rain


ok as a single layer this is the best we can do, but maybe we can combine different materials - different layers of fabris to make it work on a similar level?


or superhydrophobic metamaterials, or utility fog, or something, but it's not going to be plannable or soon




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