What? He behaves like a first class grade-A asshole. Elon is not your friend unless you're in the 10x+ billies club.
@prvc while you do this volunteer fanboy work of defending him, given the opportunity he'd just as soon eject you out the nearest airlock. It's sad really, he's essentially a Borg with a malfunctioning emotions implant.
I literally resigned from a half million dollar year job in FANG and turned a few others. I’m just happily unemployed now. Here’s what I can do. I say whatever TF I want without worrying about financial dependencies or an employer’s opinion. You can’t do the same for me cause I don’t need a tech job lol. Be in a position where you don’t have to worry about paying bills. That’s power over people. Voicing ones opinion without having to hide like a coward with a throwaway for fear of losing one’s job. That’s power.
Sure, our opinions are equally useless, but there’s varying degrees of being able to take action on that opinion.
Elon Musk can afford Twitter and do whatever he wants with it. You can’t.
I can afford to be unemployed while traveling nonstop for years on end. I can work on whatever TF I want. No BS meetings or a boss. That’s freedom, and freedom is power. You probably can’t. Do you have a boss? If you do, that person is already more powerful than you. I’m probably more powerful than your boss, since I report to no one except the government.
I can afford to not work for employers who values I don’t agree with, or just don’t feel like working for. If you are enjoying being a wage slave, be our guest.
If you’re so smart, don’t be poor. Don’t be delusional for me. The world is pretty fair for people with good ideas and the ability to actually execute on them. Talk is cheap. You can also short or long Twitter or any stock too, if your opinion had any economic merit. At the very least, don’t dread Monday. That sounds awful. Bet you have student loans too. Can’t relate.
>I can afford to be unemployed while traveling nonstop for years on end. I can work on whatever TF I want. No BS meetings or a boss. That’s freedom, and freedom is power.
What freedom do you have in stopping Musk from buying Twitter? Everything else is irrelevant.
>You probably can’t.
Another assumption.
>If you’re so smart, don’t be poor.
>Bet you have student loans too. Can’t relate.
Next time you go out on a date, I suggest you show them this comment.
>The world is pretty fair for people with good ideas and the ability to actually execute on them.
I'm happy that you haven't had any significant pains in achieving your financial independence. But just know that, if you want to make it to the big leagues, you will have to recognize the advantages you were given in order to fully make use of them. Musk, Gates, Buffet are priveleged, to be sure, but they are smart. They are in tune with the reality of their privilege. They are grateful for it, and that is essential to why they made it. Only because they are in tune with their reality, can they can shape it.
Passive aggressive intolerance and ageism. Aren’t you supposed to be virtue signaling?
> in the US
Explains why an American team winning American “football” are deemed “world champions”. Why did you assume OP spent his youth in America? Even if they are in America now, they could have been adopted from an orphanage in a different country. Logic.
Nobody in the 0.001% (the "we" this troll identifies with) made it there through sheer will and determination.
If you grew up in the slums you might make it out with a good, stable, comfortable life through good planning and will. But becoming rich enough to buy Twitter? To influence people on a global scale? You're not going to do that without the approval of the incumbents. And you are deluding yourself to think they are meritocratic. Consider how long it took -it is taking- for people with tattoos to not get written off as gang members or no lifes.
Kindly refrain from assuming people's privilege and mentality. You don't know shit, sorry to say.
Bet you enjoy pumpkin spice lattes from Starbucks, a company with more than 2x the market cap of Twitter and founded by a person who grew up in government subsidized housing.
You’ve just moved the fencepost to a random percentile. WE could very much mean anyone who owns companies, or at the very least the non-working class who controls land, labor and capital, as opposed to being the labor and barely owning land nor capitalz
>Bet you enjoy pumpkin spice lattes from Starbucks
Another assumption.
>as opposed to being the labor and barely owning land nor capitalz
What the fuck kind of misanthropic sociopath are you?
Are you seriously implying that people who don't own land or capital are just dumb? Have you considered that they simply don't want to deal with the headache or that they don't want to commodity the work of other human beings like you?
EDIT:
You are closer to the slums than you are to Musk. You have no grasp of the magnitudes. $500k is nothing to them.
It seems to me you're defending this reasoning because you think you are "we". You're not. You can't put satellites into space from out of your own pocket.
I think someone coming from the mud can obtain their own capital and land. But that doesn't make them able to affect humanity on a global level. To someone who can, their power is nothing.
I try not to be and there isn't any other response I could have given you. Everything else felt unnecessarily aggressive. I want more kindness in this world and I think everyone is able to contribute to that mission. Eventually. And I am willing to wait for people to come around.
And do you often feel unnecessarily aggressive towards internet strangers? I guess those who can't, preach. Much easier to judge others than work on yourself.
You yourself admitted calling me, a person you know nothing about, hard hearted and damaged by life the least unnecessarily aggressive thing you could muster.
Is honest introspection not part of your more kindness in this world mission?
Supporting assholes is pretty hard hearted dude. You are literally condoning them harassing other people by abusing their significant amount of power. And if you didn't get here by having a hard life then I think I am wrong in assuming your basic nature is not hard hearted.
So yes, neither honesty nor introspection is on offer.
> Supporting assholes is pretty hard hearted dude.
Nowhere did I write I support anybody. And you don't know my gender / dudeness.
> You are literally condoning them harassing other people.
Nowhere did I condone anything, neither literally nor figuratively.
> abusing their significant amount of power
Nowhere was abuse of power discussed.
You asked me whether I "perceive people in powerful positions being assholes as a problem?" and I said no. You don't know my perception beyond that, the only information you have about me is that my perception differs from yours.
In response you very rudely and judgmentally insulted me in a condescending manner. You mentioned that you experienced unnecessarily aggressiveness towards me. Your own words.
You claim you are all about kindness but then you proceeded to gaslight about being judgmental. And now you're digging in and just making things up and acting like a jerk.
Phoney kindness selectively extended only to people you find agreeable is no kindness at all. It is how you treat people different than yourself that reveals your true colors. You are simply a bully.
> he's essentially a Borg with a malfunctioning emotions implant
He was bullied as a child, and your comment is probably true about many autistic people.
I'd say Elon is using free speech for populist reasons and will not deliver a Twitter with true free speech (he is too insecure and besides almost nobody would ever use a platform like that), but no need for personal attacks (it just points at your own insecurities).
Holy epic strawman there, Batman. No of course not. I didn’t say that. Nobody else said that. I don’t agree with that. I don’t know anyone else who agrees with that. I’ve never heard anyone say that.
I wasn't aware Musk admitted he has autism, I don't really follow him but read one article where childhood bullying was mentioned. (It probably caused insecurity which is part of the reason for his success and part of why I would expect him to attempt to use Twitter ownership to influence public opinion.) Autism was just a guess from sparse observations that I have.
Having autism would not be an excuse, by the way. It's just orthogonal and isn't something people are assumed to have say in, like their skin color. Attacking that (calling emotionless Borg and so on) actually hurts any point about specific problems with his actions.
Sorry, I got something wrong. He actually has Asperger's, not Autism[1].
It's not used as an excuse from serious people, but you maybe are aware of the fanboy-armies on social media who dismiss every criticism against their Savior. Since he admitted that he has Asperger's I saw this being used as an excuse in very weird ways.
I misinterpreted your "Don't bother, nobody has any sympathy for autism here" comment as a way of saying "People are so hard on him, even though he has autism", so my bad.
Asperger Syndrome is autism spectrum disorder. It’s an outdated term but would have been the label used when Elon was diagnosed as a child.
The existence of fanboy armies is entirely orthogonal to any discussion we’re having here. Their existence should have no bearing on how Elon is judged by a neutral observer.
Kanye West is an emotionally disturbed individual. What does friendship even mean for a seriously mentally ill person?
Anyhoo, looking at your comment history, I noticed you are frequently all-in on defending Mr. Musk, regardless of what he might've done. Given the entrenchment, progress in this conversation seems unlikely, so I'm going to close this thread by wishing you all the best alephnan. Take care.
In my experience, it varies. The common theme I've seen is that people with serious paranoia issues tend to turn on their friends and those who love them the most.
I'm not trying to say they aren't capable, only asking the question of how large the differential might be.
Paranoia is categorically the mental illness that prevents someone from recognizing a friend (and maybe catatonia/coma). But when you say "someone with a serious mental illness" you make a sweeping statement that's just...fucked up and lacking of human empathy.
Moreover, you don't know Kanye. You're not his friend (I'm assuming?) Your comments on his possible friendships are lacking in authority. Actually everyone's comments (excepting the few that have actually close relations/have been affected directly) on Kanye's, Elon's, the fucking Queen's, personality and character are moot and lacking in weight.
I agree that Musk, as a flawed human being with disproportionately large amounts of control in the form of money, might not make the world a perfect (or even better) place with even more, other forms of control. But whether or not he's personable? Whether or not his intentions are good? I don't know any of that, and I won't pretend to.
@prvc while you do this volunteer fanboy work of defending him, given the opportunity he'd just as soon eject you out the nearest airlock. It's sad really, he's essentially a Borg with a malfunctioning emotions implant.