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>> I'm seeing loads of comments about how toxic Twitter is, but isn't that on you? Don't follow or engage and the algorithm will skip you over.

Its like white people telling brown people that airport security isnt a toxic place and its all in their mind. Things are toxic...just not for everyone. Try being colored or not part of the in-crowd on Twitter and you get to see how toxic it is.

The point of twitter isnt just to read, but also to engage. But engagement is hard when tiki-toting nationalists are sending death threads to anyone that doesnt want to turn the world into prison.

Even technical (non political) conversations get all sorts of hate flung at PoC accounts.



> Try being colored or not part of the in-crowd on Twitter and you get to see how toxic it is.

Try being a white right-of-center man and see how toxic it is. Try being a Christian and see how how toxic it is. Try being a gender-critical feminist and see how toxic it is. Etc.


You listed groups that have historically:

- have been purveyors, not victims, of discrimination within USA

- introduced extreme polarization to mass media & political discourse

- controlled enough political power to push their beliefs on the majority through law since the inception of this country

I wonder if “center of X” voices have ever wondered _why_ their opinions aren’t well received outside of their bubbles.

Possibly but Twitter’s ownership won’t help with any of that.


I love how you just mentioned this and people jumped in to prove your point. You never said these groups were oppressed, or anything about being silenced, just that interacting with people can be toxic if this is what you believe. Suddenly, people are jumping at you, claiming you're crying and putting all these words into your mouth. Everyone, this is the toxicity he's claiming! Not that he's oppressed, or he has no free speech.


There's a difference between receiving hate for merely existing and receiving hate for espousing harmful beliefs.

If you got hate for having Christian imagery or references in your profile, that would be awful. But if "being a Christian" means quoting Leviticus 18:22 at homosexuals then that is an action you're taking and getting pushback for.

I find people like yourself in traditional power structures genuinely believe the enforcement of the existing structure is a "neutral" act or position to hold. I think this delusion is how you come to think of politics you actively engage is as merely "being". It's not, and no on else is obligated to pretend it is.


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>the historically oppressed population

Are we living in the past now, or what is your point? Not all white "moderate" (whatever that means) live privilieged lives


> Not all white "moderate" (whatever that means) live privilieged lives

And I didn't say that they did. I'm just saying that proclaiming that you're white and male doesn't give me any information that would lead me to assume that you are marginalized. That doesn't mean you can't be in some capacity or that you must be privileged, it just means that people who look like that typically are less marginalized than people who are, say, Black or Hispanic.

There's a broad spectrum of marginalizations that exist, such as disability or economic - you can be marginalized as a disabled white guy! That's absolutely true! But when speaking purely about race or ethnicity, it's helpful to realize that people of color broadly experience far more racism.


What’s stranger is you assume every person from other categories is marginalized by default if they claim it. It’s time to stop generalizing and stomp out hate in the individual cases it can be found.


I didn’t say I assume it by default. I just said statistically it’s more likely


This is true, but it is definitely being misused and claiming you are fighting odds and systemic racism is often borderline victim mentality.


So you've been followed around a department store by security because of the way you look?


>sure, people may give you crap, but there’s nothing structural working against you

Except rapidly creeping D&I policies which explicitly discriminate against white men?

>Ah yes, white moderate men, the historically oppressed population, beaten down by years of hardship

This line of reasoning is a toxic non-sequitur. The fact that white men weren't "oppressed" historically does not mean that they are incapable of being oppressed now or should not be allowed to make such claims. Especially when you consider that even if "straight white men" are in power, the policies of that managing minority can absolutely skew our institutions against the rest who aren't in management. Which, by the way, is the entire point of D&I, so it's incredibly dishonest to pretend that oppression isn't happening when the oppressors are overtly trying to "level the playing field" by reducing/denying opportunity to this demographic.

You don't get to pretend that these policies aren't oppressive/discriminatory just because you agree with them, but that's what proponents are absolutely doing. And without pushback there's nothing stopping an overcorrection, which metrics indicate is already happening, since no one is bothered by a team that is 100% "diverse" (i.e. zero white males).


> The fact that white men weren't "oppressed" historically

In addition to which, plenty were. Look into the treatment of the Irish in the 1800's. Or the coal miners in Virginia.


I don't know... freedom of speech? From anyone's points of view, I don't see how anyone is exempted from ur points, even the white ppl(im poc btw).




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