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For short distances high-speed rail can be a good option, particularly in connecting neighboring cities (LA-SF, etc).

The problems with all these projects are cost: Simple back of envelope calculations show it to be (a) dubious, or (b) possibly criminal (ie. standard taxpayer ripoff to cronies).

$64B - do the quick math on that. Figure a 30 year return on investment earning 4% per year:

$2.2B payback per year + operating cost of what? So somewhere around $7M per day in revenues minimum?

How many riders per day and what is average ticket price to make $7M per day?

I think you will suddenly find there are cheaper, faster, better options.



Well, a flight from SFO to LAX is $70 if you book at least a couple weeks in advance. If you assume parity for the ticket price, you need to sell an average of 100,000 tickers/day. With 100 passengers per car and 10 cars per train, you would need 100 trains/day, full, in order to make the math work.

I agree that seems pretty dubious. Why on earth is infrastructure so expensive in the US?


>Why on earth is infrastructure so expensive in the US?

Infrastructure always is, but in the USA it's worse than normal. Nobody is entirely sure why.


Why is an apartment so expensive in SF? Why is an acre of land in Napa or Malibu so expensive?


It's less wasteful to spend $20 billion building a pointless wall on the Mexican border than the ~$40 billion in losses this rail is going to eat. I'm glad I'm not a California resident.




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