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Sure, but comments like: "Security people are often the black-and-white kind of people that I can't stand. I think the OpenBSD crowd is a bunch of masturbating monkeys, in that they make such a big deal about concentrating on security to the point where they pretty much admit that nothing else matters to them."

"So LSM stays in. No ifs, buts, maybes or anything else. When I see the security people making sane arguments and agreeing on something, that will change. Quite frankly, I expect hell to freeze over before that happens, and pigs will be nesting in trees. But hey, I can hope."

He's typically very critical of security-related changes unless they are a massive improvement. I think characterizing him as "functionality over security" is entirely fair. He's not even wrong necessarily.



The market has sort of proved him right.

Companies that use Linux and need security will either get caught with their pants down or they won't. It's up to their level of preparedness and luck. I wouldn't underwrite that if I were an insurer though.

Those of us that care are already using something else.


Absolutely.

I would actually argue that security doesn't depend on any one product, but instead a mindset, methodology, and toolbox. Defense in depth, etc.




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