Going by that reasoning someone must be clearly doing something wrong considering they seem to voice their political will at about the same rate as the politically active Americans.

Turnout in the latest presidential/general elections:

2025 German federal election 82.5%

2024 United Kingdom general election 59.7%

2022 French presidential election 73.69%(I)/71.99%(II)

2022 Italian general election 63.85%

2023 Spanish general election 66.6%

2024 United States presidential election 64.1%

Yah, exactly, we do care about politics right this moment because the goverment did fuck up badly.

So if Germany supports Israel bombing Gazans they are bad, but if China supports the Russian bombing of Ukrainians, suddenly it's a lot better?

Maybe re-read my comment.

From the perspective of the Gazan parents watching their children starve to death, yes, China probably seems a lot better than the UK, which is directly responsible for their situation.

The Ukrainian parent suffering Russian bombing is likely has a much better opinion of the UK for their support, but that doesn't make the UK the good guys. Just less bad in that particular situation.

From the perspective of the Gazan parents, the worst of all should be Hamas (who is actually directly responsible for their situation) since they insist on poking the bear and getting Gaza into military conflicts they can't win.

Sometimes I wonder what contemporary Hacker News would say about my country freedom fighters back in the day. If they lost, I'm pretty sure we would call them terrorists or bandits instead.

Yeah, definitely don't blame the country actually committing genocide.

You sound like someone who is excusing domestic violence by saying, "if she didn't want to get hit, she shouldn't have talked back".

Fuck Hamas, I don't support hamas, but like, Israeli actions in Gaza are clearly inexcusable.

False equivalence. One of them is a (failed) proxy war the other is genocide.

Forced deportation of Ukrainian children, the rhetoric denying Ukrainian nationhood and massacres in places like Bucha definitely put the Ukrainian war into genocide territory.

But if you want to talk about "real" genocides, China is backing Myanmar.

Pretty callous. I doubt dying Ukrainians care that you dismiss their war as "proxy". The unprovoked invasion and resulting deaths are a fact. And Russia absolutely wants to destroy the Ukrainian identity, so that actually is a genocide.

Did you ever expect to be making this kind of argument when you were growing up and learning about 20th century horrors? Or did you imagine yourself the kind of person who would have resisted in 1930s germany?

I wonder how quickly people will start to scrub their online presence now that the zeitgeist has turned against the Israeli genocide of Palestinians.

You're on the wrong side of history and a despicable human being.

Women driving or walking outside without headgear is illegal in many countries.

There are no drawn or otherwise images on 4chan that are illegal under United States law.

Uh, why do you think there's a "no kik/telegram sharing" sticky post on /b/ right now?