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Would have like to see analysis against curl repo where the commit level is one day after the Mythos training data cutoff. And disable access to the internet.

Or water companies for selling water for them. Where is the line?

If a billboard company accepted an ad that included a threat on the president’s life or recruitment info for a known terror organization, are they complicit in the crime? Water is a basic utility so I don’t think that’s a fair comparison

This is more like a firearms dealer selling a gun to someone after they put their intended usage as “robbing banks” in the ATF form


> If a billboard company accepted an ad that included a threat on the president’s life or recruitment info for a known terror organization, are they complicit in the crime? Water is a basic utility so I don’t think that’s a fair comparison

Yet Meta and Twitter are doing fine, while this has happened.

Water was kinda intentional extreme end. Is there a line? Where is the line? Giving food for someone before they make a murder can give you much bigger jailtime than not giving it, and then just ignoring the knowledge that they are going to make a murder. It is not what you do but the act itself.


Nah this is more like a billboard service “selling” a billboard to someone (for free) and the billboard reads something like “wanna have a bank robbed for you? call me” — tbh not sure if that is illegal (probably depends on jurisdiction?)

Note in this example that the billboard seller is not told what messages will be placed on the billboard, and the billboard itself is a digital billboard that can change messages instantly on command and without permission required from the billboard seller.

Obviously we need to go after supermarkets and corner stores since criminals eat, so somewhere past that.

how does anyone not know where the line is?

An example that makes it more clear: "by that logic it's my fault that i was robbed for leaving the door to my house unlocked."

No, it's the robber's fault you were robbed. The robbery is the illegal part. It is not illegal to leave a door unlocked. Back to your train wreck of an example: it is not illegal to sell keyboards, and it is not illegal to provide water to people. Extortion is illegal. Denial of Service attacks are illegal.

That's where the line is. It is the border between legal and illegal.


Cloudflare didn't say "give us money or we'll cause you harm"... so no extortion. Cloudflare infrastructure wasn't used for the attack, so no DoS attack.

They sold services to two customers, one of whom did a crime independent of cloudflare.

If a robber sees Bob buy a bunch of expensive electronics at WalMart, and then buys a crowbar and robs him, is WalMart somehow responsible for the robbery?


> If a robber sees Bob buy a bunch of expensive electronics at WalMart, and then buys a crowbar and robs him, is WalMart somehow responsible for the robbery

Yes, if Walmart somehow knew robber’s intentions, but sold anyway. That is the primary question actually. Was the intent or act known or not.


Should Walmart be responsible for performing background checks on people buying crowbars to ensure they don’t intend to do harm? What about lighter fluid? Rat poison? Baseball bats?

Firearms companies for wrongful death, keyboards for hacking, 3d printers for suicide drones. Shovels for holes.

Most people don’t understand how QR code works. So right now it may just send a SMS or prepare for it. But some day, it will do the remote attestation under the hood and the end user does not see the difference. I would bet a lot for this preparation.

I don't even use Sonnet anymore. Current feels worse than Claude 3.5 couple years ago. They have quantized that much? Switched to GPT 5.5, let's see how long it will stay good.

The problem with GPT is it doesn't have the same wholistic worldview of the problem space as Claude

Hmm, what that means or how can you even measure it? At least for all my recent problems, GPT 5.5 has performed better.

I fear that easier it gets to run models locally, more expensive all the hardware gets. So at the same time it gets further and further. You should have bought the hardware yesterday.

The more expensive it gets, the higher the incentive for more competition in the hardware space.

The thing is that it is something which takes so long time. E.g. why Taiwan is still so important?

That misses the point of the original commenter. He is saying that local model only powers things where privacy is not so relevant and that creates the illusion.

The new book from lady who worked in Meta summarises it.

Well Electron includes Chromium. Maybe that pulls the 4GB model as well… not sure if it is Chrome only.

I am scared to even open Chrome these days. The only app that randomly chunks 70% of CPU availability with one tab.

How is trust model different with lambdas?

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